[In these minutes: Role of the Student Experience in the Educational
Mission of the University, SSCC Bylaw changes, 2003-04 Student Senate Budget,
Senate Reorganization, Reports]
STUDENT SENATE CONSULTATIVE COMMITTEE
(SSCC) MINUTES
APRIL 17, 2003
[These minutes reflect
discussion and debate at a committee of the University of Minnesota Senate or
Twin Cities Campus Assembly; none of the comments, conclusions, or actions
reported in these minutes represent the views of, nor are they binding on, the
Senate or Assembly, the Administration, or the Board of
Regents.]
PRESENT: Judy Berning, (chair), Kari Lindeman, Ryan
Osero, Nathan Saete, Eric Steinhoff, Tom Walsh.
ABSENT: John
Amble, Nick Cecconi, Scott Ferguson, Yev Garif, Kelsi Holland, Dan
O’Connor, Jasen Peterson,
GUESTS: President Robert
Bruininks, Derek Brunsberg, Joshua Colburn, Tony Diggs, Eric Dyer, Jacob Elo,
Chris Frazier, Sara Kloek, Executive Vice President and Provost Christine
Maziar, Gina Nelson, Interim Associate Vice Provost June Nobbe, Kyle Rollness,
Danielle Stuard, Kate Stuckert, Vice Provost Craig Swan, Maggie Towle, Kevin
Vogeltanz, John Ziegenhagen.
1. ROLE OF THE STUDENT EXPERIENCE IN THE
EDUCATIONAL MISSION OF THE UNIVERSITY
Judy Berning, SSCC Chair,
stated that the intent for this discussion was to have all student government
groups, along with administrators, talk about what role student experiences have
been and should be assuming in conjunction with the educational mission of the
University. Everyone at the meeting should feel free to express any thoughts or
ideas that they might have on this topic. She then asked Craig Swan to provide
an introduction.
Craig Swan, Vice Provost for Undergraduate Education,
said that while his job description is clear on the Twin Cities campus, it
becomes vaguer for the coordinate campuses since he is not an officer of that
system, yet works closely with each campus.
Vice Provost Swan stated that
the University has a three-fold mission: research, teaching, and service. The
reputation of the University is built by the quality of its faculty and staff,
but the students also play an important role since they are the bedrock upon
which everything else is built. The University has received strong support from
the state in the past for undergraduate education, but budget challenges will be
an issue for the University. He noted that while the budget will not impact
course availability, some peripheral services will change. An example of this
is that the paper course guide will cease to be published after fall 2003 and
will only be available on-line.
Nate Saete, a student from Crookston,
stated that one of his campuses challenges is conquering the myth that Crookston
is simply an agricultural school. If more diverse majors were offered, other
non-agricultural students would be attracted to the campus.
President
Bruininks noted that this is a challenge for many campuses. In this case, funds
are being diverted to increase natural resources courses at Crookston. The goal
is to offer majors that build on strengths already in place on each campus, as
well as the strengths and needs of the region.
Judy Berning said that she
had read that some colleges on the Twin Cities campus wanted to double their
undergraduate enrollment. She wondered how this would be possible given budget
and space constraints.
Vice Provost Swan said that there are principles
in place to guide enrollment management so that the student experience is not
degraded. Any increases will be managed in a phased and careful way. One of
the examples was a 50 percent increase in the undergraduate body within the
Carlson School of Management. Before this can be done, the college knows that
funds need to first be raised for more facilities. Other goals included a 50
percent increase in freshmen in the College of Biological Sciences, more
full-time students at Crookston, and a student population of 2100 at Morris. In
all cases, a timely graduation still needs to be guaranteed.
President
Bruininks then turned to the hockey riots that took place on the Twin Cities
campus the past weekend. He said that he was disappointed by the actions that
took place for a second consecutive year. While some of the riot participants
were not University, those that are University students should no longer be
considered to be in good standing. He is proud of all the students that did not
participate, but those that did degraded the University’s reputation and
brought shame to the campus.
He said that the University implemented many
other diversions this year, but it still did not prevent the riots from
happening a second time. He asked the student leaders for help on what other
tactics the University might try to prevent this problem from happening again in
the future. He noted that the University has taken many steps in the past few
years to improve the student experience, such as implementing convocation. He
asked what other values or outcomes do students want and expect besides their
education.
Kari Lindeman, a student member of SSCC, noted that a way to
prevent another riot may be to offer another outlet for student pride and have
the student organizations sponsor controlled events following the
game.
President Bruininks noted that the University hosted events at
Mariucci and Coffman Union, but this still did not deter rioters.
Eric
Dyer, current MSA Vice President, said that once the Mariucci event ended, most
students did not consider going to Coffman. Instead, they left the arena and
were swept up in the riot. Some students feel disassociated from positive
University traditions, so this might be a future goal for events. The
University could also encourage friendly competitions with other institutions
throughout the year in academics and athletics that might detract from one big
event. Students might also find it harder to riot and destroy property in
neighborhood communities if they were required to do community service and
public outreach with these areas.
Chris Frazier, GAPSA President, said
that all segments of the University population should work on outreach with the
surrounding community area, not just students.
President Bruininks said
that he was in favor of community service since it develops skills, allows a
person to become more competent, connects a person with a community, and allows
people to make a contribution back to society at large. When neighborhood
liaisons are made, students should be included. He then noted that the
University is considering a policy that would regulate University students off
campus under certain circumstances.
Eric Dyer, MSA Vice President, said
that students from some campus groups already attend neighborhood
meetings.
Nate Saete, SSCC member from Crookston, said that this has also
been an issue at Crookston so students have started attending city council
meetings. Students realized that they needed to make the effort to go to the
city instead of waiting for the city to come to them.
Josh Colburn, MSA
president, said that advising standards at the university need to be reviewed
since many students do not know what to expect from this service.
Vice
Provost Swan said that a task force with members from the Council of
Undergraduate Deans and students will be looking at the issue of
advising.
Executive Vice President and Provost Maziar said that there is
a need for more partnerships between the administration and the students. These
partnerships will build legitimacy in the student process and assure that issues
continue through the years.
Josh Colburn, MSA President, noted that
graduation rates need to be addressed. There are several programs on campus
which really require five years for completion and students in these programs
should not be pressurized to be in and out in only four years.
Ryan
Osero, Student Senate Chair, encouraged the administration to instill more pomp
and circumstance and history into campus events so that students have a personal
connection to campus, instead of just being a customer.
Judy Berning then
asked this year’s students leaders to pass on advice to next year’s
student leaders in the form of one things that they would have done differently.
She began by noting that she wished she had started working sooner and put more
emphasis on streamlining student government and unifying the student voice
across the campuses.
Chris Frazier, outgoing GAPSA President, said that
groups need to create a stronger student voice, so that each campus is
autonomous enough to voice concerns to their own administrators but can also
represent the larger, unified, system voice of students.
Josh Colburn,
MSA President, informed next year’s student leaders to reserve space early
since he was caught by the space crunch many times this year.
Eric Dyer,
MSA Vice President, said that student groups need to continue to remove
animosity, come together in light of the budget situation, and back each campus
in their efforts.
Jake Elo, Student Representative to the Regents from
the Twin Cities, said that students, and the University as a whole, need to
focus more on the long-term vision.
Danielle Stuard, Student
Representative to the Regents from Morris, said that student groups need to work
on getting more students from the general population involved, which will then
work to counteract the bad impression that many students have of
government.
Eric Steinhoff, SSCC and Student Senate Vice Chair from
Morris, said that it took him a long time to figure out how the process works
since other students just assume that other people know. He asked old members
to take the time to talk to and mentor new members so that they can have full
involvement earlier in the process.
Kevin Vogeltanz, MCSA President, said
that personally he was disappointed with the organization that was done when the
students lobbied at the capitol and wished next year’s group better luck.
He also noted that good student leaders are always needed because of the high
rate of burn-out in student leadership. He said that leaders do not receive any
credit from their fellow students or the faculty, and also do not receive any
academic credits so leaders must always choose between the organization and
their education.
Gina Nelson, Student Representative to the Regents from
the Twin Cities, said that student government needs to better engage the average
student, both in terms of providing information to and having discussions with
these segments.
Ryan Osero, Student Senate Chair, said that student
leaders need to see their involvement as a multi-year commitment so that they
are involved with the transition into and out of the office.
Kari
Lindeman, SSCC member from the Twin Cities, asked that next year’s
students work on improving student and faculty relations outside of the
classroom as a way of improving relations within the classroom.
Tom
Walsh, SSCC member from GAPSA, stated that professional school students need to
realize that there is more to the University than their program and they should
be encouraged to participate in the broader community.
In closing
Executive Vice President and Provost Maziar wished all students good luck on
their finals. President Bruininks thanked the SSCC for arranging this meeting
for a candid exchange of ideas. He tells many other groups about the pride he
has for the University’s student leaders and how well-served campus is by
them. He said that all student leaders are owed a debt of thanks for the work
they do.
Judy Berning thanked everyone for their attendance and said that
SSCC would continue this type of discussion again next year as a way to share
ideas.
2. APPROVAL OF THE SSCC BYLAW CHANGES
Judy Berning
said that at the last Student Senate meeting, votes were taken on the different
proposals presented by the SSCC Task Force. The two most popular proposals were
both options in #1, equal and proportional representation. Also to be
considered was the merger of the SSCC and Student Senate Chair
positions.
MERGED CHAIRS
While the increased workload for the
one chair under this proposal is a concern, merging would streamline the
positions, eliminate dual contacts on issues, and provide a greater role for the
already-merged vice chair position.
Q: Is there a problem now with having
two separate chairs?
A: For some issues, there is duplication for the two
chairs, and sometimes the correct chair is not contacted for an issue within
their position. This year has worked well since both chairs communicate
regularly, but problems have arisen when the two positions did not work well
together and would withhold information.
Q: Was a merged chair tried in
the past?
A: It was done for one year.
Q: Could a coordinate
campus person hold the chair position?
A: There would be nothing in the
rules to prevent this from happening, but distance and availability might hinder
how well the job can be done.
Q: Has an FCC chair ever been from a
coordinate campus?
A: No, not within the last 15 years.
Members
made the following comments:
- Sunset clause could be included to review the change in two or three
years
- Current system allows one person to cover if the other chair is not
available
- Vice Chair should fill-in, not the other chair
- Would merged chair and vice chair positions prevent coordinate campus
members from serving in either capacity?
- Efficiency should be the deciding factor, not workload
- Delegation is always possible
- If there is only one person, there is more accountability
- Workload is not just a coordinate campus concern
A vote
was then taken on this proposal, and it was approved with four in favor, one
opposed, and one abstention.
SSCC MEMBERSHIP
Ryan Osero
presented the two options for membership, equal and proportional, noting that
the decision should include a discussion of three issues. First, what is the
role of the committee? Second, what kind of representation will serve that
role? And third, from a logistical perspective, how many positions per campus
can actually be filled and is it best to have most of the committee on the
phone?
He said that both proposals have been brought to SSCC for more
debate, but the committee must recommend one option, for if there is split,
either motion will fail at the University Senate.
Q: What is proportional
membership based on?
A: It is based on the size of enrollment for each
campus, constrained by an overall best size for the committee.
Q: Could
each coordinate campus elect or appoint two members?
A: This would be
possible at Crookston and Morris. (The Duluth representative was not at the
meeting to provide input.)
Q; Could each student association/assembly
afford a second stipend for the SSCC position?
A: Yes.
Q; Would
multiple members promote a sense that both do not need to be present and
therefore lead to half full meetings?
A: Members should not be more
likely to skip just because there is a second member, but it will guarantee that
an entire campus voice is not missing.
Members made the following general
comments about the proposals:
- How will SSCC decide who does not vote at SCC meetings?
- Committee size needs to be kept small
- SSCC should remain the same size as FCC
- SSCC does not recommend policies that benefit one campus at the expense of
the others
- Administration goes to SSCC for quick information and feedback
- Full Student Senate is proportional and can override SSCC decisions
- SSCC mission may change with membership
Members then made
the following comments for equal representation:
- Advantageous having two members since a campus would still be represented if
one member cannot make a meeting
- It is hard for one person to represent a campus. This option gives a campus
two distinct voices.
- There is no campus diversity with only one voice
- If there is just one person, the campus does not know if that person is
doing a good job
- Coordinate campuses are under-represented at SSCC, and very
under-represented at SCC
- Members on the phone need to be recognized just like people sitting at the
table
- Currently all voting power rests with the Twin Cities
students
Members then made the following comments for
proportional representation:
- Should SSCC membership remain parallel to FCC?
- If Twin Cities undergraduate students have less than three seats, it would
be difficult to represent all the diversity on campus, although four seats can
be too many
- SSCC should recognize the size differences between campuses and not
disenfranchise the majority
- 80 percent of students are in the Twin Cities
- Organization sending representative should hold accountability for their
member, no matter how many, since more members does not always equal better
accountability
- Coordinate campus ex officio representatives could be added for more voices,
but without a vote
- Advantageous for most members possible to meet in person for meetings
instead of on the phone
- All campuses are equally represented at the table, regardless of the number
of votes they have
A motion was then made and seconded to
bring both proposals to the Student Senate meeting and for that body to decide.
Members noted that SSCC should be able to handle this decision otherwise its
credibility will be in jeopardy and it will foster too much debate at the
Student Senate meeting. A vote was then taken and the motion was not approved
with only one in favor and five opposed.
A motion was then made and
seconded to forward the equal membership proposal to the Student Senate. A vote
was taken and the motion was approved with four in favor and two
opposed.
Judy Berning said that she would write the comments to the two
proposals going forward.
3. 2003-04 STUDENT SENATE
BUDGET
Eric Steinhoff presented the 2003-04 Student Senate budget,
noting that if the amendment to merge the two chairs is approved, the two
separate $1500 stipends will be merged, but only $2000 has been recommended as
the funding level for the merged position. With no comments, a motion was made
and the budget was approved.
4. DISCUSSION OF THE PROPOSED SENATE
REORGANIZATION
Judy Berning distributed a proposed organizational
chart as being discussed for the University Senate. The purpose of the
reorganization would be to allow all academic professional staff and
non-bargaining unit civil service staff entry into the University Senate itself,
and not just its committees. Key changes to the structure include:
- Student Senate seats going from 59 to 50
- Only 4 student seats on SCC
- Dual reporting for some committees, including SCEP, SCFP, and Research
- University Senate fixed at 250 elected members total
The
goal is for all affected groups to review the proposal now. A draft will be
presented to the University Senate in October with action being taken no earlier
than December 2003. Implementation of the structure would not take place until
July 1, 2004.
Q; How many faculty are on the University Senate
now?
A: Faculty currently have 167 seats and would go to 125. The FCC
feel that they cannot lose any more seats otherwise the faculty senators will
not support the proposal.
Members made the following comments:
- Faculty do not have to be superior in a revised structure
- Equal representation should be sought
- Steps need to be taken towards inclusion of other
groups
5. WRITTEN REPORTS
STUDENT SENATE
CHAIR
Ryan Osero reported on some issues on the horizon:
-Changes to
the Student Conduct Code in response to the hockey riots
-A more inclusive
University Senate by adding members for CAPA and Civil Service. Discussions to
follow...
-Changes to the Student Senate Consultative Committee. The overall
goal is to clarify the contact point for the Student Senate and increase the
effectiveness of the organization. If anyone has more ideas, I encourage them to
contact this year’s Student Senate leaders
Congratulations to all
the newly elected senators!
Reminder: elections for Senate Chair and Vice
Chair are coming up. If anyone is returning next year and is interested,
contact him or Eric with any questions.
CROOKSTON
Nate
Saete reported:
-Chancellor search process has been narrowed down to four
final candidates
-This past Tuesday, April 15, CSA had the Student Awards
Reception in Kiehle Auditorium
-Next Monday, April 21, CSA will be having the
Spring Banquet
6. ORAL REPORTS
CHAIR
Judy
Berning that Zeina Dajani was removed for missing two Senate meetings. She has
asked to be reinstated. She was told to submit a letter by the end of the day
on Friday, which will be sent to SSCC for a vote by next Tuesday.
7.
OTHER BUSINESS
Judy Berning presented a Resolution on Student Senate
Mentors for approval. She noted a job description would be created and approved
by SSCC in May if the resolution was approved by the Student Senate. Members
suggested a few changes in wording. The resolution was then approved as
amended.
With no further business, Judy Berning thanked all members for
attending and adjourned the meeting.
Becky Hippert
University
Senate