These minutes reflect
discussion and debate at a meeting of a committee of the
Minutes
Senate Committee on Finance and Planning
Tuesday, November 21, 2006
2:30 – 4:15
238A Morrill Hall
Present:
Judith Martin (chair), Daniel Feeney, Steve
Fitzgerald, Lincoln Kallsen, Joseph Konstan, Mikael Moseley, Kathleen O'Brien,
Kathryn Olson, Terry Roe, Karen Seashore, Charles Speaks, Warren Warwick, Aks
Zaheer
Absent:
Rose Blixt, Marcie Jefferys, Thomas Klein, Michael
Korth, Ian Macmillan, Richard Pfutzenreuter, Justin Revenaugh, Thomas Stinson, Michael
Volna, George Wilcox, John Ziegenhagen
Guests:
Lesley Krueger (Office of the Vice President for
University Services); Vice President Charles Muscoplat, Greg Cuomo (Director of
Operations,
[In these minutes: (1) Twin Cities campus master plan;
(2)
1. Twin Cities Campus Master Plan
Professor
Martin convened the meeting at 2:35 and turned to Vice President O'Brien to
lead a discussion of the Twin Cities campus master planning process.
Vice
President O'Brien distributed copies of a handout and reviewed the contents. She noted the 1993 regental campus master
planning principles (which embraced the concept of a master plan for each
campus) and that a Twin Cities plan had existed since 1996. That plan, after a two-year comprehensive
process that included reliance on an advisory committee of about two dozen
faculty, staff, and community members and outside consultants, and had a set
guiding principles. Those principles
are: instilling a sense of community,
identification and preservation of natural features, creating a cohesive system
of open spaces, achieving a balanced system for movement and access, and
promotion of the optimization and rationalization of campus facilities,
increasing the mix of uses on campus, developing connections, fostering
accessibility and a sense of safety and security, promoting architectural
integrity, preserving historic buildings and landscapes, and facilitating and
ensuring healthy collaborative ventures [most of the preceding a direct quote
from the handout]. The campus master
plan is a land-use plan, Ms. O'Brien said, as well as a plan on how the
University operates and how it might grow and develop over time.
In
2004 President Bruininks charged her with the responsibility for updating the
Twin Cities campus master plan, Vice President O'Brien related. She convened a group of faculty and
administrators (including Professor Martin, who now chairs this committee, and
Professor Neckar in Architecture) that met for about six months. The group revisited the existing plan and
talked with a number of groups around campus as well as to individuals who have
been involved in campus master planning around the country. The group came to several conclusions: the 1996 plan should be retained and updated,
the plan should be linked to University operations, and it should be used as a
living document. At present it is not
operationalized, not living, and not integrated with the governance system, but
it is a good framework, so the University need not start over again.
Professor
Speaks commented that there should be, but is not, any reference to the master
plan being aligned with and supporting the academic mission and the goal of
being among the top three public research universities. One could build a campus that would a
disaster for getting to the top three.
Vice President O'Brien agreed.
That gets to the point that the master plan has not informed the
operations of the University, and she pointed to the charge to the Steering
Committee to update the master plan: the
first item in the charge is to "align and integrate the Master Plan with
University core processes such as strategic positioning, academic planning[,]
and funding. Even that language,
Professor Speaks said, covers only part of the academic mission. Ms. O'Brien agreed and said that is why his
description of how the plan is now used was accurate.
Vice
President O'Brien reviewed the other elements of the charge, which included
taking advantage of major initiatives scheduled for the next decade, focusing
on "growing a campus" instead of building buildings, instilling
principles of sustainability, optimizing the distinction of being the largest
research university that bridges the Mississippi River, and increasing
ownership in the master plan by the University community and ensure there is
broad and meaningful consultation with key constituencies.
Professor
Konstan said that at some point someone needs to operationalize how people
interact on campus in terms of moving around, staying in clusters, and so
on. Professor Martin said there are
guiding principles in the original master plan that instruct the work of the
current group. Professor Konstan said these
charges are very abstract and there is need for something one can measure, look
at, that is more concrete. Professor
Martin responded that the precinct plans provide a greater level of
detail. So the approach, Professor
Konstan concluded, is to worry about the flow of people within the precincts,
and to say that it is OK for people to stay within the precincts. Some will do that, Professor Martin conceded,
and it must be possible to do so.
Vice
President O'Brien reviewed the schedule for updating the master plan, which
ends with a request for regental approval in the spring of 2008.
The
Committee looked over an organizational chart identifying the Master Plan
Steering Committee (co-chaired by Vice President O'Brien and Professor Martin),
issue-based work teams, and the staff team.
The work teams are labeled, and have as co-chairs: Enhancing the Campus (Jerry Rinehart, Denise
Guerin), Natural Features and Open Spaces (Lance Neckar, Art Erdman), Movement
and Access (Kevin Krizek, Bob Johns), Community Connections, Collaborative
Ventures & Safety (Sheila Ards, Becky Yust), and Design and Preservation
(Terry Bock, Judith Martin). Each of the
teams is directed to address several issues:
enhancing the learning environment, alignment with strategic
positioning, sustainability, benchmarking, technology impacts, and
operationalizing the plan.
The
Committee also reviewed briefly the charges to the work teams, which contained
a set of more detailed questions.
Professor Zaheer suggested the Steering Committee needs to develop a set
of high-level directions and not devolve everything to the work teams and that
it should state design principles. Ms.
Krueger said the Steering Committee will meet and deal with these issues on an
ongoing basis and will provide direction to the work teams.
Professor
Konstan said one of his concerns is that a lot of decisions on transport, for example,
will depend on other decisions. The
Committee, for example, is involved in the food and beverage RFP, and the
question of whether dining will be spread around or centralized has
implications for questions before the work teams. It would be helpful to have a principle
enunciated that could be operationalized, measured, and visible to the
community. Ms. Krueger said the staff
team will work to ensure that there is coordination among the work teams.
Professor
Konstan asked if it was the goal that faculty, staff, and students could move
around the campus without going outside.
If so, and goal is to be retained, there are implications (lockers,
space, etc.). One point of a campus
master plan is to learn lessons from the past.
Professor
Roe suggested that the plan should include the notion that it will evolve over
time. He also urged that it should
contemplate the impact on the community and how to bring the community to
campus. He was, he recalled, an advocate
of opening the Campus Club to the public.
Ms. Krueger noted that one of the work groups is focused on community
connections. Vice President O'Brien
related that she recently saw statistics on where University faculty and staff
live. Ten to fifteen years ago, the near
neighborhoods would have had a higher percentage of University employees than
they do now, and those concentrations provided a natural connection between the
University and neighborhoods. With fewer
faculty and staff living close, there is more distance.
Ms.
Olson said that the "Enhancing the Campus" work team has no
researchers and that there is very little representation from the
Professor
Hendel asked how the five work teams are involved in major projects, such as
the football stadium. They are not, Vice
President O'Brien said, because they are not working on capital planning or the
six-year capital plan. Professor Hendel
asked if there should be a connection; Professor Martin suggested the connection
should occur through the subcommittee Professor Hendel chairs, on capital
projects and campus master planning. Ms.
O'Brien said that the work teams have a resources list and bring in people with
expertise for more in-depth discussions.
Professor
Warwick commented that the University does not exist by itself and that there
are good colleges around it; the University should tie into those colleges,
which provide graduate and professional students.
Professor
Martin thanked Vice President O'Brien and Ms. Krueger for their presentation.
2.
Professor
Martin now turned to Vice President Muscoplat for a presentation on
Dr.
Muscoplat presented a series of slides about
The
community would have 20,000 – 30,000 people live, work, and play, would have an
enhanced quality of life, would be environmentally sensitive and energy
efficient, would be intellectually and culturally rich, and that would grow the
University endowment to support its goals.
Dr.
Muscoplat referred to a couple of maps to describe the development pressures in
the area and noted that there are large demands being made on that region. He reported that the Steering Committee hired
an acclaimed land-use planning firm, Sasaki, and had also consulted with a
number of key constituents (faculty, local communities, regional government,
etc.) They also conducted site visits to
similar developments elsewhere in the country.
The faculty urged building a community founded on University research
across all disciplines, focus on sustainability in education, health, and
energy, and provide a research platform for a top-three university. Local governments are excited that the
University has begun to develop plans for
The
land-use planning firm, Sasaki, analyzed regional trends and demographics, site
characteristics and natural resources, and did a market analysis and considered
development strategies. The net increase
in population in the area around
The
vision for
Other
universities have developed planned communities. The
There
are three scenarios for
A: Hold the
land without development (allows the mature to mature; the risk is the plans of
others will control the destiny and value and the University misses academic
opportunities)
B: Sell the
land at wholesale prices (simple, natural market demand will dictate speed and
price; there would be modest gains from periodic sale of parcels the risk again
is that the University misses academic opportunities)
C: Develop a
new community (this advances the University's academic mission and regional
academic development and maximizes value; the risk is that it is a bold
undertaking over 25-30 years).
Their recommendation is option C: "transform
The
master planning guidelines for UMore Park call for governance oversight by the
Board of Regents, that it be grounded in the core academic mission, that there
be guidelines for ongoing research, academic, and community engagement, and
that it be managed as an entire acreage together. The master plan is to be brought to the
Regents in 2007. There would be a
development team appointed from the senior officers and operating structures to
manage the endeavor for the next 25-30 years.
Dr.
Muscoplat invited questions and comments.
This
could be a disaster in 30 years, Professor Konstan observed, recalling the
Disney community in
Professor
Konstan said there are two extremes. How
would it be crafted if the University does not touch it for five years, it
survives, and the University gets the benefit?
Or how would the University structure deals so it was pushed to stay
involved—or it would not receive revenues?
The outcomes are that the University is the governor of development but
not the community and it does not get picked off. UBC and Stapleton are separate corporations;
the Board of Regents will not give up control, so
Professor
Warwick said he believed this is a project the University can sell this idea to
the people of the state and that he would vote in favor of anything to encourage
the University to proceed.
Professor
Roe acknowledged that a lot of thinking had gone into the proposal but said it
sounds utopian and too centrally-planned.
There are a number of contingencies and liabilities and one must ask the
economic question: what are the
returns? There are questions of property
rights. Just because the University has
a lot of faculty experts does not mean it is the best agency to carry out this
plan. It comes down to profitability and
social stakes: why can the University do
this better? Dr. Muscoplat said they
believe the community will be self-sustaining in the beginning (from the sale
of gravel on the land) and that when the University seeks a partner, many will
bid and will pay a lot of money to participate.
Except for a few million dollars at the beginning, the University will
not need to spend more money. Money will
come from land sales, gravel, and the community developer. The bid process, he added, will need to be
very transparent.
Who
will own the schools, businesses, and home, Professor Roe asked? At Stapleton, on the retail areas were
retained by the community; the rest of the land was sold.
There
is a short-term financial risk, Mr. Cuomo said, but when the gravel is mined,
the revenue will be produced. Once there
is a master developer, there is almost no risk, because even if the project
were a financial debacle for the developer, the University would still own the
land.
Professor
Konstan said he was not worried about the financial implications but said the
University should consider a plan whereby it retains title to the land (so, for
example, it has the land if it needs to build a campus there in 150
years). He said he was more worried
about the University achieving the reputation it seeks if it handles this
project poorly. (The likelihood of
handling it poorly probably increases in 20-30 years, when the University could
lose interest, which could hurt the University's reputation.) He said this is an exciting proposal and he
was not arguing against pursuing it, but he suggested the University not cash
in to get the revenues too quickly and ensure that the project remains tied to
so research endeavors can continue.
Professor Martin commented that if one looks at regional
development for the last 50 years, it has pushed west, south, and north, but
not far southeast. There are enormous
possibilities in that area, especially along the corridor to
Professor
Martin's observation is the reason for his question, Professor Roe said: Why is the University better able to do this,
instead of a private developer?
Professor
Seashore said she shared the concerns.
The University must retain a privileged relationship with the schools so
that someone can't come in, screw up, and make the University look bad. It would be a novel relationship—their
schools, not the University's, but the University retains authority.
Professor
Feeney said there is a link between economic sustainability and the goals of
Mr.
Cuomo said none of the points raised during this meeting have not been raised
before. In terms of leasing the land,
people won't buy when they don't own the land.
That is a model, he said, but one has to be concerned about the
market. In terms of owning the retail space,
the Board of Regents has asked if that is part of the University's
mission. In terms of Professor Roe's
question about whether the University is a better organization than others to
develop this project, the University has a lot of expertise and it can team
with others as needed. Professor Martin
said if the University sells the land, it can insist on covenants and easements
and so on, which developers will follow.
Mr. Cuomo agreed and said the University can retain control without
owning all the land.
Professor
Roe talked about the need for a property rights structure and incentives for
depreciation, management, and so on.
Professor Zaheer concurred, and said it will be very difficult for the
University to walk the fine line between making money and doing research. The Board of Regents wants to maintain
control; Harvard wants to make a lot of money and structures its contracts to
do so. It is almost an impossible task to
structure contracts and incentives for the people involved in them without ownership. This will be extremely difficult to pull off
without clear guidelines—which there will not be. Mr. Cuomo agreed there is always a fine line
between the financial mission and the academic mission.
This
is a 25-30-year project, Professor Martin observed once again; she pointed out
that the
Ms.
Olson asked about research: She said she
was not sure she would buy a home in a community that will be a research
subject for the rest of her life. What
incentives exist for people to buy in such a community? There will not be cameras in every yard, Mr.
Cuomo observed; research might look at things like electricity and water
use. Two "bad" things about
the research are that it is not utopian and doing it means the University will
not be trying to make as much money as possible. The idea is to create research opportunities
in the vein of people studying people, but not coming into their homes. That would need to be explicit, with an opt-out
provision, Ms. Olson suggested, but that might erode the research objectives.
Professor
Warwick said one must think about history:
The University started before the state, one guiding principle. Another to think about is how land donated to
education should be used; what are the purposes set forth by the pioneers and
by the donors? He said he was entranced
by the potential of the project. The
founders of the University were willing take a risk to improve life for
students and the state. One should not
make assumptions that mean one must doubt the project.
Professor
Roe said that implementation will be tricky.
In the case of the riverfront, public investment made private investment
more likely. The question is how to
implement that approach in this case.
There are urban planning experts who can advise on how to attract
private investment. He maintained,
however, that it is virtually impossible to plan centrally something this
large.
Mr.
Cuomo said all these points were well-taken; the project is not simple but it
is exciting and could provide tremendous benefit to the University.
Professor
Martin asked if buses can get there. Mr.
Cuomo said they can and that light rail has also been proposed; he agreed that
people needed to be able to move in and out of the area.
Professor
Martin thanked Dr. Muscoplat and Mr. Cuomo for the presentation and discussion,
and adjourned the meeting at 4:20.
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Gary Engstrand