BENEFITS
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF
MEETING
APRIL 19, 2007
[In these
minutes: AFSCME Proposal, RFP
Updates, Announcements]
[These
minutes reflect discussion and debate at a meeting of a committee of the
University Senate; none of the comments, conclusions, or actions reported in
these minutes represent the view of, nor are they binding on the Senate, the
Administration, or the Board of Regents.]
PRESENT: Gavin Watt (chair), Tina Falkner,
William Roberts, Karen Wolterstorff, Jody Ebert, Jennifer Imsande, Rhonda
Jennen, Sandi Sherman, Joseph Jameson, Michael Marotteck, Carla Volkman-Lien,
Carol Carrier, Amos Deinard, Richard McGehee, Fred Morrison, Theodor Litman,
Rodney Loper, Dann Chapman
REGRETS: Don Cavalier, Peh Ng, Carl Anderson, George
Green
ABSENT: Linda Aaker, Jerremy Mlenar, Frank
Cerra, Keith Dunder
OTHERS
ATTENDING: Kelly Ahern, Bob
Altman, Ted Butler, Joyce Carlson, Nancy Fulton, Murray Harber, Jim Jorstad,
Shirley Kuehn, Kathy Pouliot, Kelly Schrotberger, Curt Swenson
I). Gavin Watt called the meeting to order.
II). Employee BenefitsÕ Announcement: Open enrollment for long term care
(LTC) ends tomorrow, Friday, April 20, 2007.
III). Gavin Watt called on Sandi Sherman to
speak to the AFSCME proposal, which asks the BAC to take a stand and call on
the University to:
Before discussing the proposal, Ms. Sherman made the following introductory remarks:
A
member asked whether AFSCME actually has a say in its benefits or whether the
administration comes to the negotiating table with benefit decisions that are
already made leaving little to no room for negotiation. According to Ms. Sherman,
by the time Labor Relations representatives sit down at the bargaining table
with union representatives, benefits decisions are virtually a done deal. Mr. Bob Altman from Labor Relations
noted, however, that from the UniversityÕs perspective, Labor Relations is well
aware of its obligation to negotiate health insurance benefits. Dann Chapman added that part of the reason
issues are fairly fleshed out by the time they reach the bargaining table is
because the unions have participated in the BAC discussions where many of these
benefit conversations have already taken place. The University finds a lot of
value in having the various employee groups represented on the BAC as it
discusses issues that are eventually bargained.
During
todayÕs discussion, the question of what is the comparison group that the
University compares itself to when deciding on its health care benefits
arose. Professor Morrison noted
that the University compares itself to:
Professor
Morrison reported that while he was the legislative representative, legislators
would ask why the University should get better benefits than other large Minnesota
employers. He added that in his
opinion, the University has done a good job in keeping its benefits whole and
not allowing them to be eroded. In
addition, a result of a good benefits set is that people want to work for the
University. Prior to the
implementation of the 4-tier rate structure, increasingly spouses/same sex domestic partners of
University employees declined health care coverage with their employers in
favor of coverage through their University employed spouse/same sex domestic
partner at a relatively low rate.
While
Professor Morrison is in favor of being creative in holding down health care
costs while remaining competitive with comparable institutions of higher
education, he is concerned about this proposal because it does not speak to
holding down costs.
Gavin
Watt noted that at one time the UniversityÕs health care benefits were through
the State. As the University and
the State drifted apart, it has become increasingly difficult to compare
benefits packages. Professor Morrison
added that the University inherited the Ô10% RuleÕ from the State. Since departing from the State, the
University modified this rule so that employees with employee only coverage
still pay only 10% of their health care premiums and families pay 15% of their
premiums. The State, on the other
hand, while keeping the 10% rule for employee only and family coverage, raised
its deductible.
There
are pieces of the AFSCME proposal, noted Professor Morrison, that are somewhat
problematic, e.g. capping employeesÕ share of the premiums at current levels
for those enrolled in the base plan and HealthPartners Classic Plus, because
different groups of providers in these plans are charging significantly more
than others. In these cases, the
UPlan would be subsidizing the providers that charge a higher cost. It is very important that the
University continues to put price pressures on all providers. Under this proposal there would be no
incentive for UPlan participants to choose high quality and economically efficient
providers. Professor Morrison
voiced his concern over supporting a proposal with a dollar amount cap on the
employeesÕ share of the premium without an incentive for employees to choose
quality, and economically efficient providers.
What
are the costs associated with this proposal asked a member? Along these same lines, the question of
how much the University has saved with respect to pharmacy benefits was also
raised. Mr. Chapman stated that it
is always dangerous to talk about ÔsavingsÕ because this word suggests that
costs went down, but this is not the case. Rather than pharmacy costs going down, he noted, the trend
is slowing and, as a result, costs are not rising as fast as expected. Therefore, it made sense for the
University to encourage this trend and share the cost difference back with the
participants that actually created the cost difference in the first place
(co-pay for Generic Plus category drugs to be reduced from $10 to $8). He added that all health plan deficits
are dealt with through the fringe pool; deficits are not added back into the
UPlansÕ cost by raising rates in the future. In the same way, if there were to be an over collection,
these funds would stay in the pool to help level out costs going into the
future.
Ms.
Sherman reported hearing from some AFSCME represented employees that after the
University moved to a 4-tier health insurance plan, their pay actually
decreased. In response to this
Dann Chapman noted that the only way this would be possible would be if
employees elected to purchase one of the buy-up plans. This did not occur for any University
employee that selected the base plan.
To
address item two in the AFSCME proposal, Employee Benefits distributed a
handout comparing organizations with separate pharmacy out-of-pocket maximums
and organizations without separate pharmacy out-of-pocket maximums. Ted Butler walked members through the
information contained on the handout.
Dann Chapman stated that Ms. ShermanÕs comments that pharmacy costs for
UPlan members have gone up under the new pharmacy plan are simply not accurate. Costs for prescriptions for UPlan
members have gone down by more than $1 per filled script from 2005 to 2006, and
this trend will continue to go down as long as there is an increase in generic
utilization among the UPlan population.
He added that the UPlan is unusual in part because of its Generic Plus
category, and also for its prior authorization process, which allows members,
when there is a medical necessity, to get their prescription co-pay reduced to
the lowest level. In response, Ms.
Sherman stated that the prior authorization process is not easy to navigate.
After
much discussion, the BAC went on the record and noted that health care costs
are an extremely important issue, which the University needs to continue to
monitor closely. The
University should work to hold the line on health care costs, especially for
lower paid employees and work to proactively reduce these costs. Furthermore, the committee requests the
administration explore the feasibility of reducing UPlan membersÕ pharmacy
out-of-pocket maximums. Employee
Benefits was asked to report back on the cost of reducing pharmacy
out-of-pocket maximums at the committeeÕs next meeting.
IV). The committee was given an RFP update. Gavin Watt noted that RFPs for retiree
health insurance, dental insurance and life insurance were issued this
year. He thanked members of the
BAC that were involved in this process as well as Tom Messervey from Dentistry
Administration who also participated in the dental RFP process. With this said, Mr. Watt reported that
the current retiree health insurance vendors were retained and costs were
generally held down.
Professor
Ted Litman reported that 6 vendors bid on the retiree health insurance RFP. The 4 current plans was were retained
– Blue Cross/Blue Shield, HealthPartners Freedom, UCare and Medica. He added that Medica proposed a new
program with a more national scope.
Professor
Litman stated that many retirees have asked whether they can do any better by
purchasing health insurance in the open market instead of through the
University. This question was
posed to each of the vendors. From
this question it was learned that the University has a rich plan that does not
have a Òdonut hole.Ó
How
many of the 4 options allow retirees to go to the Mayo Clinic in Rochester
asked a member? The only plan that
does not cover services rendered by the Mayo Clinic is Medica who claims that
it is a contractual issue.
Ironically, however, retirees with Medica coverage can go to the Mayo
Clinic in Florida and Arizona.
Mr.
Watt stated that in terms of dental insurance plans, Delta and HealthPartners
were retained. Two other vendors
submitted responses, but neither had the broad network that the University needs
nor did they appear to be able to offer the services that the University
wanted.
Three
of the 10 life insurance bidders were interviewed; Minnesota Life was selected. Rates went down slightly. As an added benefit Minnesota Life is offering a one time,
limited open enrollment for guaranteed issue additional employee life insurance
for 2008. The two options that
have been presented to the University are:
Ted
Butler provided members with background information about additional employee
life insurance so members could make an informed decision about which would be
the best option for the University.
Each
of these options penalizes the 139 employees that tried to get additional life
insurance through Minnesota Life, but were declined, noted a member. The University had extensive discussions
with Minnesota Life to see if they would reconsider this exception, but they
would not. Dann Chapman added that
if this is a significant concern to the committee a third option would be to
decline Minnesota LifeÕs offer. He
went on to note that employees can enroll for new or additional coverage with
evidence of insurability.
Professor Morrison noted that this offer was not part of Minnesota
LifeÕs original bid.
After
a fair amount of discussion the committee voted to recommend the University take
option 2.
V). Additional announcements:
VI). Hearing no further business, Gavin Watt
adjourned the meeting.
Renee
Dempsey
University
Senate