BENEFITS
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF
MEETING
APRIL 7, 2005
[In these
minutes: Announcements, Pharmacy]
[These
minutes reflect discussion and debate at a meeting of a committee of the
University Senate or Twin Cities Assembly; none of the comments, conclusions,
or actions reported in these minutes represent the view of, nor are they
binding on the Senate or Assembly, the Administration, or the Board of
Regents.]
PRESENT: Gavin Watt (chair), Linda Aaker,
William Roberts, Karen Wolterstorff, Jody Ebert, Ronald Enger, Rhonda Jennen
for Rita McCue, Penelope Morton, Don Cavalier, Joseph Jameson, Michael
Marotteck, Carla Volkman-Lien, Carol Carrier, George Green, Carl Anderson, Fred
Morrison, Peh Ng, Theodor Litman, Rodney Loper, Dann Chapman, Keith Dunder
REGRETS: Peter Benner
ABSENT: Pam Wilson, Frank Cerra, Richard
McGehee
GUESTS: Professor Stephen Schondelmeyer,
College of Pharmacy
OTHERS: Bob Altman, Linda Blake, Amos Deinard,
Jennifer Durocher, Betty Gilchrist, Shirley
Kuehn, Kathy Pouliot, Ruth Rounds, Jackie Singer, Curt Swenson, Phyllis Walker
I). Gavin Watt called the meeting to order.
II). ANNOUNCEMENTS:
- Gavin Watt reported that the RFP
Subcommittee signed a report recommending vendors for the 2006 –
2009 UPlan. This report will
be presented to the Board of Regents on May 12, 2005. Vendor announcements and plan
scope will be shared with the BAC at its May 19th meeting. Mr. Watt thanked all those that
served on the RFP Subcommittee for their hard work. He also thanked those that provided
support and expertise to the Subcommittee.
No
major plan changes to covered services are anticipated for 2006. Any hospital, clinic and/or provider
disruption will be minimized. The
plan from the consumerıs perspective should look similar to what currently
exists. However, there will be
plan design changes, some of which still need to be discussed e.g. pharmacy
co-pay structure, two-tier versus four-tier rate structure, and indexing health
care costs based on income.
- Wellness Program Manager Ruth Rounds
distributed a handout, which outlined the Universityıs spring/summer 2005
wellness events (http://www1.umn.edu/ohr/eb/wellness/wellevents.htm). She also noted that she is in the
process of establishing a subcommittee to work on a fall health care consumer
campaign. Ms. Roundıs
solicited volunteers to serve on this subcommittee.
- A handout summarizing the Governorıs
Fitness Challenge was distributed.
Members were encouraged to visit the website for this program at http://www.beactiveminnesota.org/. This site contains a lot of good
information to help people be active.
- The Wellness Baseline Survey results
are being tabulated. Once
this information has been compiled it will be shared with the Committee.
- Until full details of the AWGıs
report to the Board of Regents are made public on May 12th,
members were cautioned to look upon any information they may hear with
respect to the 2006 – 2009 UPlan with skepticism. While the AWG has a recommendation
it will present to the Board of Regents, no contracts have been signed.
III). Gavin Watt introduced Professor Stephen
Schondelmeyer from the College of Pharmacy, PRIME Institute. Professor Schondelmeyer provided
information on pharmacy drug expenditures, trends and ideas on how to control
pharmacy drug costs. He
highlighted the following information:
- In 2004, as a society, approximately
$235 billion was spent on prescription drugs. This dollar amount only represents prescription drugs
administered on an outpatient basis and does not include drugs
administered in a physicianıs office, hospital or other settings such as
prisons or public health clinics.
The expenditure for drugs in all settings is approximately $358
billion.
- Drugs administered in a hospital
setting or a physicianıs office are often referred to as ³specialty²
drugs. It would be wise for
the UPlan to carve these drugs out from other prescription drugs and
manage and monitor these expenditures separately to ensure the University
is paying a fair amount, but not an excessive amount. In the marketplace, it is not
uncommon for PBMs (Prescription Benefits Manager) to overcharge for
³specialty² drugs.
- Drugs currently represent 19% of
total health care expenditures.
By the year 2010, drugs are expected to represent 24% of total
health care expenditures, and by 2012 drugs are anticipated to represent
25% of total health care expenditures, exceeding physician
expenditures. Therefore, in
order to control costs it is critical that the UPlan manage and monitor
what it spends on drugs.
- Two major components play a role in
prescription drug pricing – the drug product cost at the
manufacturerıs level and the pharmacistıs dispensing fee. It is clear that it is not the
dispensing fee that is driving the cost of prescription drugs, but rather
the drug product cost at the manufacturerıs level. Oddly enough, many employers
choose a PBM based upon the pharmacistsı dispensing fees and rebate
amounts. Realistically, in
order to manage the growth in pharmacy drugs expenditures both the
manufacturerıs costs and the dispensing fees need to be controlled.
- Recent drug price increases can be
attributed to:
- Price inflation.
- The use of brand versus generic
drugs.
- Directed consumer advertising.
- Pharmaceutical sales representatives.
- It is important to remember that the
newest drugs on the market are not necessarily the best. In fact, whenever appropriate,
generic drugs should be used because they are less expensive and safe. In Professor Schondelmeyerıs
opinion, the United States has the best Food and Drug Administration (FDA)
system in the world. Generic
manufacturers must meet the exact same standards as brand manufacturers
when they produce a lot of pills.
The only time the use of a brand versus a generic could be argued
as medically necessary would be if a patient is allergic to the color of
the dye or other inert ingredients in the generic drug.
- The role for generics:
- Patients should encourage
physicians to prescribe generic drugs whenever appropriate.
- Pharmacies should be encouraged to
dispense generic drugs whenever possible. Generics cost anywhere from 25% - 90% less than brand
drugs.
- Patients should be encouraged to
request generic drugs from their physicians.
- Overspending is occurring if single
source brand name drugs are dispensed when a generic is available. Higher priced brand drugs do not
produce better health outcomes.
- The generic fill rate at the
University is approximately 41% versus a national average of 46%. The best PBMs have generic fill
rates of between 50% - 70%.
Questions/comments
from members included:
- What percentages of drug
expenditures represent drugs that have been inappropriately prescribed or
instances where a fourth generation drug was prescribed when a first
generation drug would have worked equally as well? Nationwide estimates indicate that
between 5% - 25% of prescription expenditures are inappropriate. Inappropriate utilization of drugs
needs to be carefully managed in order to control costs.
- Does the FDA require head to head
comparisons when a new drug is being evaluated or do they compare it
against a control drug? By
statute, the FDAs level of comparison is against a placebo or the first
drug in a particular class.
The FDA does not require comparisons amongst similar drugs and rarely
do drug companies conduct comparisons. Occasionally, however, such comparisons may be
conducted in academic settings or by the National Institutes of Health
(NIH).
- If a physician writes a prescription
for an over-the-counter (OTC) drug, does the UPlan pay for it? It depends. Most plan administrators currently
do not pay for all OTC drugs, but may pay for some with a prescription. Starting in 2006, the UPlan can
design its prescription drug plan so that it pays for OTC drugs with a
prescription.
- Can the University create its own
formulary list and impose this list on its PBM? This is an option, however, in Professor
Schondelmeyerıs opinion a hybrid approach would be a better strategy. Under a hybrid system the
University would contract with a PBM that has an established formulary
list and processes in place, but who would allow the University to
customize this list and the services it delivers.
- What can the University do to
educate its population regarding the soaring costs of drugs and the use of
generics versus brands? Ideas
need to be explored, however, there are several different options
including direct mail pieces on drug related behavior patterns. Also, the PBMs that are being
considered have ideas on how to appropriately increase the Universityıs
generic use rate. There needs
to be an incentive for people to use generic drugs.
- Do health plans profile their
physicians to see who is prescribing fourth generation drugs versus first
generation drugs, etc.? PBMs
are able to profile physicians and their prescription writing
patterns. Once profiling results
have been compiled, academic detailing is one approach that is effectively
used to educate physicians about alternative prescription drug writing
options.
- Do PBMs offer an appeals process to address
instances where a patient may require an expensive brand drug as opposed
to a generic? Yes, to the
best of Dr. Schondelmeyerıs knowledge all PBMs have an appeals process. However, some PBMıs appeals or
exceptions processes are more effective than others. An appeals or exceptions process
is absolutely necessary for a plan with differential co-pays, prior
authorizations and formulary lists like the University is exploring.
- Would it be worthwhile for the UPlan
to institute a differential co-pay for generic versus formulary and
non-formulary brand drugs?
Yes, something different needs to be done with the UPlanıs current
pharmacy co-pay structure as it relates to generics. The specifics of such a plan would
need to be discussed in further detail. Generic drug usage needs to be encouraged at the
University.
- How do we educate physicians
regarding their prescription writing patterns? The best approach is to educate all players in the
process, physicians, patients and pharmacists and to provide each with an
economic incentive for prescribing, using and dispensing generic
drugs. Ultimately, the most
successful programs require very little patient education because
physicians and pharmacists are doing the right thing in the first place.
- What prevents drug manufacturers
from giving pharmacists a kickback for filling a prescription with a brand
versus generic drug? In
Minnesota, this is illegal.
Ironically, however, the drug manufacturer can legally pay the PBM
to prefer the brand over the generic drug. For this reason, during the PBM interviews, the RFP
Subcommittee asked PBMs for all their sources of revenue. The University seeks to have
complete transparency of its PBMıs revenue sources and have the right to
audit these sources.
- Can the University require
therapeutic substitutions in addition to generic substitutions? Yes, however, this is an area that
needs further exploration.
There needs to be a balance in the plan design, which would give
the physician some choice/discretion when prescribing a medication, and,
at the same time, not have a plan that is too limited in its drug
options. It is not a good
idea to limit the physician when there are true differences across
products.
- How often are drugs prescribed for a
condition that is not the FDA approved treatment? An example of this is Neurontin,
which was approved by the FDA as an epileptic drug, but is being used to
treat many other disease states.
³FDA approved use² means that a drug manufacturer requested the
drug be used for a specific purpose and it was evaluated only for that
purpose. There are some
unapproved uses of drugs that are medically valid and appropriate. There are also some unapproved
uses of drugs that are not valid, medically appropriate, or documented by
clinical evidence. The UPlan
does not want to prohibit use of drugs for unapproved medically valid
uses. Off-label,
inappropriate use of drugs is a concern, but it is very difficult to
monitor.
Gavin Watt
thanked Dr. Schondelmeyer for his presentation.
Next, Mr. Watt
asked members if they would be willing to consider a different co-pay structure
that would save both the University and its employees money. Currently, the University has a
two-tier co-pay structure, formulary and non-formulary. Mr. Chapman added that the Universityıs
current pharmacy co-pay structure also has a generic incentive on a chemical
basis. To illustrate, if a patient
chooses to purchase a brand drug when a chemically equivalent generic drug is
available, the patient pays the co-pay plus the difference between the generic
and the brand drug cost.
The Committee
continued its discussion of this topic.
Members agreed that something must be done about the Universityıs low
generic use rate. The question,
which remains on the table for the BAC to weigh in on is whether or not the
UPlan pharmacy co-pay structure should have a co-pay differential between
generic, brand formulary and brand non-formulary drugs. If so, what should the new co-pay
structure look like? Options will
be brought forward at the May 5th meeting and the Committee will be
asked for its advice.
IV). Hearing no further business, Gavin Watt
adjourned the meeting.
Renee
Dempsey
University
Senate