BENEFITS
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
OF MEETING
SEPTEMBER
18, 2003
[In
these minutes: Membership Change
to BAC, St. Mary’s Duluth Clinic Will be in Tier 2 for 2004, Changes to
UPlan for 2004 Resulting from Bargaining, QuickMedx Presentation &
Discussion, IRS Ruling on Over the Counter Medications, Introduction of
Jennifer Durocher]
[These minutes
reflect discussion and debate at a meeting of a committee of the University
Senate or Twin Cities Assembly; none of the comments, conclusions, or actions
reported in these minutes represent the view of, nor are they binding on the
Senate or Assembly, the Administration, or the Board of Regents.]
PRESENT: Fred Morrison (chair), Linda Aaker, Pam
Wilson, Karen Wolterstorff, Jody Ebert, Ronald Enger, Don Cavalier, Joseph
Jameson, George Green, Gailon Roen, Susan Brorson, Steve Chilton, Amos Deinard,
Richard McGehee, Peh Ng, Theodor Litman, Dann Chapman
REGRETS: Gavin Watt, Carla Volkman-Lien, Carol
Carrier, Keith Dunder
ABSENT: Wendy Williamson, Frank Cerra
GUESTS: Tom Charland and Jodie Heyerdahl of
QuickMedx
OTHERS: Linda Blake, Karen Chapin, Kathy
Pouliot, Pat Yozamp, Jennifer Durocher
I). Professor Morrison called the meeting
to order and welcomed all those present.
II). ANNOUNCEMENTS:
a)
Professor
Morrison noted a membership change to the Benefits Advisory Committee. Brenda Peltzer, AFSCME’s care
professional representative – Local 3260, has returned to school thereby
leaving a vacancy on the Committee.
Professor Morrison requested Pat Yozamp speak with the appropriate
people within AFSCME to appoint a replacement for Ms. Peltzer.
b)
Dann
Chapman reported that St. Mary’s Duluth Clinic re-bid their original
tier-pricing structure for 2004 with PatientChoice. As a result, in 2004 St. Mary’s Duluth Clinic will be
in tier 2 rather than in tier 3.
To accomplish this, it will be necessary for St. Mary’s Duluth
Clinic to take substantial discounts to their billed services. Up to this point, St. Mary’s
Duluth Clinic has been the most expensive care system within the PatientChoice
model.
A member asked why St. Mary’s Duluth Clinic
has been so expensive. Dann
Chapman stated that is difficult to answer but noted St. Mary’s Duluth
Clinic has had low discount and high volume of utilization of its
services. Karen Chapin noted that
in previous conversations with St. Mary’s Duluth Clinic, they attribute
their higher costs to their clinic pricing. A Duluth member commented that St. Mary’s Duluth
Clinic’s decision to re-bid their tier-pricing structure for 2004 may be
in part a response to the fact that they are losing a lot of patients due to
their pricing strategy and, as a result, have been forced to lay-off employees
in order to reduce their administrative costs.
c)
Dann
Chapman announced a couple changes resulting from the bargaining process:
·
The
PreferredOne National office visit co-pay will be reduced from $30 to $25 for
2004.
·
The
PreferredOne National non-formulary prescription co-pay will be reduced from
$30 to $25 for 2004.
III). Karen Chapin introduced Tom Charland
and Jodie Heyerdahl of QuickMedx.
Ms. Chapin noted that the University is considering making QuickMedx
available within the UPlan.
Mr.
Charland noted that QuickMedx’s mission is to deliver quick access,
affordability and convenience to its customers. QuickMedx business model features include:
QuickMedx
limits who they treat. For
example, QuickMedx does not treat:
The role
QuickMedx plays is an adjunct to the primary care system. Mr. Charland used Day Surgery Centers
as an analogy to help members understand the QuickMedx model.
Mr. Charland
noted that within a month QuickMedx’s name will change to
MinuteClinic. The name QuickMedx
could not be trademarked.
The QuickMedx
model is driven by consumers not wanting to go and sit in urgent care for
oftentimes several hours. The
model’s original value proposition was convenience and it is still
maintained today.
A member asked
whether QuickMedx has negotiated with any of the health plans it is in-network
with to cover Medicaid and MNCare patients. Dann Chapman noted that if the University implements the
QuickMedx program it will cover all UPlan participants regardless of their plan
affiliation.
A Duluth
Committee member concerned about the “same as” language in the
Duluth contract asked whether QuickMedx will be available in Duluth. Currently, QuickMedx is a start-up
company that is available in a limited area and at this time has no clinics in
Duluth. Mr. Chapman noted that Mr.
Charland has expressed an interest in developing the Duluth market, which the
University can strongly encourage, however, the University is not in a position
to force QuickMedx to do business where they do not exist. Additionally, Mr. Chapman noted it does
not make sense for the University not to take advantage of a service that
appears to be able to offer savings to both the UPlan as well as UPlan
participants. Mr. Charland
commented that Blue Cross/Blue Shield has also expressed an interest in
QuickMedx entering the Duluth market, but as a start-up company QuickMedx has
to be very careful about taking risks and going into new markets.
A member asked
that Mr. Charland explain QuickMedx’s payment arrangements in light of
the fact that it does not do patient balance billing. Mr. Charland explained, assuming QuickMedx is a service that
will be offered through the UPlan, it would make arrangements to direct bill the
University for these services.
Ideally, the goal for QuickMedx is to be in-network with each of the
health plans, however, if this is not possible a ‘work around’ can
be arranged with the University to make delivery of its services transparent to
UPlan participants.
Professor
Morrison asked Mr. Charland why QuickMedx prefers to be in-network versus
out-of-network with all health plans.
Mr. Charland explained that if QuickMedx were in-network with all health
the University’s plans, all the University would have to do is send out
communication promoting the service.
Ms. Chapin added for a health plan to be in-network with QuickMedx
facilities the University’s ability to collect data and incorporate it in
the University’s database without an incremental cost. If the University needs to add other
‘feeds’ into its Ingenix database there is a significant cost
involved.
A member asked
whether there is an advantage to UPlan participants if their health plan is
in-network with QuickMedx as far as how medical information is forwarded to
each of the health plan providers’ database systems. QuickMedx has very strict clinical
guidelines and continuity of care is a huge issue for them. Therefore, QuickMedx would always make
sure, for example, if a vaccine were given that that record is forwarded on to
the patient’s primary care clinic whether they are in-network with that
particular plan or not. Ms. Chapin
added if QuickMedx is in-network with a health plan an advantage to the
consumer is that if deductibles or maximums apply, these charges will be
recorded accordingly.
Studies indicate
customers that visit QuickMedx typically would have gone to urgent care 43%-47%
of the time, an emergency room 5% of the time and the balance of the time to
their primary care clinic. Data
from the recently released Minnesota Health Plan Study indicates it costs an
average of $109 to go to a clinic for a sore throat, $190 to go to urgent care
and over $300 to go to the emergency room.
Besides
treatment of certain common family illnesses, QuickMedx does screenings such as
full panel cholesterol tests, bone density tests, etc. as well as administer
vaccinations e.g. tetanus, influenza, etc.
The QuickMedx
staffing model is comprised of certified family nurse practitioners and physician
assistants. There is always a
physician on call when clinics are open.
QuickMedx’s Chief Medical Officer is Dr. Ed Ratner from UMP. Because of the contacts of
QuickMedx’s founder, Dr. Glen Nelson, QuickMedx has collaborated with
very prominent physicians in the community to develop its protocols. Because its protocols are so refined
and well-documented, QuickMedx is exploring doing research to improve and make
more consistent the delivery of care in the treatment of common family
illnesses.
A member asked
what motivates an individual to seek out the services of QuickMedx. Mr. Charland noted that QuickMedx
handles many more treatment cases than screening and vaccination cases. Therefore, when people are sick they
seek out QuickMedx as a destination.
When people visit a QuickMedx site for a screening or vaccination they
tend to do so out of convenience.
Forty five
percent of QuickMedx’s patients are children. QuickMedx is also a destination for adults seeking treatment
for illnesses they have caught from their children as well as for sinus
infections, female bladder infections and some of the screenings offered by
QuickMedx. A member asked whether
QuickMedx is considering expanding its services. Mr. Charland said QuickMedx will always be looking at
additional services it can offer.
QuickMedx publicizes as much as it can afford regarding its
services. Mr. Charland said that
this is where the employer’s role in communicating QuickMedx’s
services plays an important function.
A member asked
whether the QuickMedx co-pay amount will be determined by which plan an
employee is enrolled in. Dann
Chapman noted that the co-pay amount will be a University decision and will
need to be discussed.
In response to a
question, Mr. Charland noted that QuickMedx is able to custom design wellness
screenings.
QuickMedx does
not do paper charting. All the
information captured by QuickMedx is captured in proprietary software, which
enables QuickMedx to easily run queries on an employer’s population.
A member commented
on the small number of locations QuickMedx has throughout the Twin Cities. Mr. Charland agreed that QuickMedx is
weak on the east side of the city but that will be addressed in the near
future. The demographic of an area
drives the locations that are chosen by QuickMedx. QuickMedx is embarking on a new model to establish its
location strategy. QuickMedx has
reviewed the University’s employee demographics and believes there are
many University employees that will be able to take advantage of their services. Mr. Charland added that people do drive
when they are sick.
Test and
screening results are immediately provided to patients on-site and a paper copy
is forwarded to the patient’s primary care clinic. Because clinics use a variety of
software packages to capture their medical records data, results are forwarded
to primary care physicians via hard copy.
Mr. Charland
noted there are many opportunities for the QuickMedx model to take advantage
of. For example, once the employer
model is fully operational and running smoothly, QuickMedx plans to address the
medical assistance population.
There are opportunities for QuickMedx in airports, rural areas, etc.
QuickMedx is a
privately funded company. A member
asked whether QuickMedx’s Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Ed Ratner of UMP,
holds any ownership equity in QuickMedx.
If so, this could pose a conflict of interest. Ms. Chapin noted that in order to move forward with this
offering, the University would need to follow the appropriate purchasing
procedures and through this process, if a conflict of interest were identified,
it would be addressed. Professor
Morrison believes that as long as Dr. Ratner is not a member of the BAC it is
unlikely there exists a conflict of interest.
How was Cub
Foods selected as a retail location for QuickMedx? QuickMedx approached Cub Foods and they expressed an
interest in having QuickMedx on site.
Cub, through survey and focus group input, received overwhelmingly
positive response to this idea and, as a result, moved forward with its
implementation.
Are all
QuickMedx locations limited to Cub Foods stores? No, for example, QuickMedx also has a location in the
Medical Arts Building downtown Minneapolis.
QuickMedx has
provided the University with a model so the University can input its experience
data to determine the feasibility of offering QuickMedx to its employee
population.
In terms of time
savings, QuickMedx estimates that its patients realize approximately 3 hours in
productivity savings than if a patient would go to an urgent care
facility. Not only does the actual
QuickMedx visit take less time, QuickMedx has extended hours thus allowing
employees to stay at work longer.
Basic criteria
used by QuickMedx in establishing its retail locations:
·
A base
employee population of 15,000 – 25,000.
·
The ability
for QuickMedx to work directly with a health plan as an in-network provider or
an employer that would agree to do a ‘direct bill’.
·
Availability
of a logical, convenient retailer with a pharmacy under the same roof.
A member
believes if the University moves forward with this idea it is a wonderful
opportunity to conduct a research study on the economics of instituting such a
program.
Upon completion
of their presentation, QuickMedx representatives, Mr. Charland and Ms.
Heyerdahl left the meeting room and the Committee engaged in a discussion of
whether this idea should be pursued by the University.
Mr. Dann Chapman
began by noting if the University offers QuickMedx services it will only be
able to do so to a limited portion of the University population. QuickMedx is currently not a statewide
service and it also has some limitations within the Twin Cities itself. With this in mind, Mr. Chapman asked
members should the University offer QuickMedx given these limitations.
The
administration views the UPlan as a partnership between the University and its
employees. Therefore, when a
savings can be realized by the UPlan, it should be shared with the
University’s employees.
After careful analysis by the Benefits Department factoring in various
assumptions, the UPlan could potentially realize a $500,000 savings by offering
QuickMedx services. Please note,
this calculation takes into account that savings will be shared with the
employees by reduced co-pays for QuickMedx services. Hence, by visiting a QuickMedx clinic, savings are realized
by both the employer and employee and it provides an incentive for people to
visit these facilities. These
savings are significant and should help slow the rate of health care inflation
the University is experiencing.
A member
challenged some of the assumptions the University made during its analysis of
estimated savings to the UPlan should it offer QuickMedx. A concern was raised that the QuickMedx
model will take business away from a clinic system who then will be forced to
increase their pricing structure.
In Mr. Chapman’s opinion, this would be extremely unlikely in the
near future and believes the University should take advantage of the immediate
potential savings the QuickMedx model offers.
Looking
back on how the Committee came up with its original co-pay recommendation to
the administration, a member questioned the rationale for recommending a very
low co-pay for QuickMedx services because it seemed contradictory to the
Committee’s original co-pay philosophy. Mr. Chapman explained that co-pays are intended to be a cost
sharing mechanism as well as a vehicle to make individuals think about whether
they need to visit a doctor or not. The purpose of a co-pay has never been to
prevent an individual from seeking treatment when they need it. With this in mind, the QuickMedx co-pay
amount is being determined assuming there will be a 15% ‘take-up
rate’. A 15% ‘take-up
rate’ assumes that 15% of services will be received at QuickMedx clinics
as opposed to other settings.
A member
expressed the concern that QuickMedx is too small currently to handle the
University population, and, with HealthPartners as its largest competitor,
QuickMedx will not receive the amount of business it is projecting from the
University. Mr. Chapman stated
that part of the QuickMedx business model and cost equation is that they will
be responsible for providing the University with marketing materials for
educational purposes to UPlan participants. QuickMedx’s statistics prove they have a very high
percentage of return business.
Therefore, the goal will be to get UPlan participants to try them once.
Based on the
University employee zip code analysis conducted by QuickMedx, the University
has approximately 13,000 UPlan participants that live within less than a
20-minute drive to a QuickMedx location.
Members were asked to remember that a significant number of University
employees live in the suburbs.
In Dann
Chapman’s opinion, there is virtually no risk for the University to
partner with QuickMedx and in reality there is a lot of upside potential to
develop this business relationship.
Professor
Morrison asked members whether the Employee Benefits should be encouraged to
pursue developing a business relationship with QuickMedx. A Duluth member noted that while he
supports saving the UPlan money, there is a contractual issue between the
University and the Duluth union surrounding this matter. For the record, if the University
offers QuickMedx this is not “same as” treatment for employees on
the Duluth campus as well as the other coordinate campuses. The direct savings that UPlan members
on the Twin Cities campus will be able to realize by using QuickMedx services
as well as the immeasurable convenience factor offered by the QuickMedx model
will not be afforded to the Duluth or other coordinate campus employees.
Karen Chapin
noted that if QuickMedx is not an in-network provider with one of the plan
administrators it would be impossible for the University to have QuickMedx
co-pays accumulate toward out-of-pocket maximums.
A motion was
passed, with one abstention, encouraging the University to investigate entering
into a contract with QuickMedx.
The motion contained the caveat that the vendor, QuickMedx make a good
faith effort to develop their out-state markets, specially those markets where
University coordinate campuses are located.
IV). Other Business: A member read about a health care
reimbursement account card that automatically deducts funds from an individuals
account and wanted to know if this cost saving device will be available to
University employees with a health care reimbursement account. Mr. Chapman never heard of this card
described as a cost saving mechanism but instead it is more of a convenience
feature. Kathy Pouliot of Employee
Benefits noted that there are taxation issues surrounding the use of these
types of debit cards and there is some indication that the IRS may require
employers who offer these cards to issue 1099 forms. Employee Benefits will monitor developments with respect to
these debit cards.
Mr. Chapman
reported on a recent IRS ruling that states that over-the-counter medications
used to treat a condition can be reimbursed from an employee’s flexible
spending account. Because this is
an interpretation of an existing regulation, the IRS ruling is effective
immediately and even potentially retroactively. Currently, the University as well other employers are trying
to understand how this new benefit can be practically administered. To administer this new benefit properly
may require the University to modify its plan document. Some questions that need to be answered
include:
·
What kind of
documentation will be needed to substantiate claims? It is likely that pharmacies/retailers with inadequate
receipt documentation will have to adapt to this new ruling in some fashion.
·
How does the
Employee Benefits’ staff determine which medications are used for the
treat of a condition as opposed to those that are not? The IRS, as an example, clarified that
vitamins that are taken routinely are not eligible for reimbursement because
they are not considered a treatment per se. However, if vitamin supplements are being taken to treat a
condition, and an employee has a letter from a physician to corroborate this,
potentially these vitamins may be reimbursable.
There are many
unanswered questions that need to be answered before this new benefit can be
properly administered. Employee
Benefits will not administer this benefit until it understands how to do so
properly and it has a plan in place to effectively manage the process for
delivering this benefit. Mr.
Chapman is hopeful that Employee Benefits will be able to administer this
benefit before the end of the plan year so that people that might otherwise
forfeit funds in their flexible spending account can take advantage of this
benefit. Ms. Pouliot added that
Employee Benefits is in the process of establishing a communication plan to
inform employees about this new benefit.
It was further noted this new benefit does not give employees the right
to make a status change election and, therefore, only impacts people that have
money in their flexible spending account.
Next, Karin
Chapin introduced Jennifer Durocher, Employee Benefits’ new Assistant
Health Program Manager. Ms.
Durocher replaces Tonya Soli who left the University awhile ago.
Lastly,
Professor Morrison asked about the voting timeline for bargaining unit
employees. Jody Ebert, a member of
AFSCME, and Ron Enger, a Teamster representative, noted that balloting will
take place on October 2, 2003. As
a result, Professor Morrison proposed canceling the October 2nd BAC
meeting with the caveat that this decision is subject to reconsideration.
V). Hearing no further business, Professor
Morrison adjourned the meeting.
Renee
Dempsey
University
Senate